ACC's Jim Phillips at Commissioner's Forum during ACC Kickoff
Jul 22, 2025
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That was exhilarating. Good way to start Tuesday morning. Good morning. Welcome
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to the 2025 a ACC football kickoff. Let me begin by thanking each of you for
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attending. We thoroughly enjoy hosting you here in Charlotte for this occasion as well as
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the many other championships, meetings, and events we hold throughout the year. The Queen City is an outstanding home
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for the ACC and please know that our office is always available to you.
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On behalf of the entire ACC, our hearts and prayers remain with everyone who's been affect affected by the horrific
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storms and flooding, most specifically in central Texas where the loss of life
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is truly devastating. We will continue to keep the family and friends of loved ones in our thoughts
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and I ask that you join me in a moment of remembrance.
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Thank you. To see so many media partners, colleagues, and friends assembled here today is incredibly
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humbling. You are appreciated, and your attendance, coverage, and support will never be taken for granted.
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As I've done annually since my first ACC football kickoff five years ago, there's one group in attendance that I'd like to
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especially recognize. Yesterday, I was able to spend time with our ACC student athlete advisory
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committee. If you know me and have followed this league, you know there is nothing more important than our amazing
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student athletes. Please join me in recognizing the representatives from our ACC sack who I asked to stand that are
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midway back here today.
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They remain the best and brightest student athletes in the country. Promise you. Before I look ahead, it's important
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to reflect on the past year and what was accomplished both within the ACC and
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nationally. Beginning last July and throughout the year, we seamlessly integrated our three
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newest league members. Our national footprint present in each of the five
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most populated states and having four of the 10 largest television markets will
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continue to serve the ACC well. During the 2024 Summer Olympics in
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Paris, athletes from ACC institutions combined to win 102 total medals, the
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most of any conference, including the highest number of golds. Current and former student athletes from
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a total of 13 different schools won at least one medal and Stanford athletes
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led all NCA schools with a school record 39.
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The partnership with Disney and ESPN was only further strengthened this past year. Last summer we celebrated the
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fifth anniversary of ACC Network with a series of med media interviews and events in Bristol.
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Following the celebration on ESPN's campus, many of us were on the same
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flight to Ireland for the Heirlingus Classic featuring Florida State and
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Georgia Tech. It was an incredible atmosphere and having ESPN's College
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Game Day as well as ACC Huddle broadcasting live for the first time outside of the United States was
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absolutely tremendous. It was also the most watched week zero college football game since 2019 and the
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top game on cable this past season. Sponsorships were enhanced as two
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additional partners were secured, including GEICO as the presenting sponsor of the 2024 ACC football
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championship game. And as part of a multi-year agreement through 2027, Troll
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Price became an official sponsor of the ACC and as the exclusive title sponsor
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of the ACC men's basketball tournament. At the end of January, in conjunction
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with ESPN, we announced an extension of our long-term partnership through the
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203536 academic year. The renewed commitment demonstrated ESPN's ongoing dedication
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to the ACC and has accelerated our creative and innovative efforts to drive
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additional value. Following the ACC board of directors
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endorsement of a competitive success initiatives program back in May of 2023,
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this past year marked the first implementation of the progressive and forwardthinking
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approach that rewards schools for their competitive success in football and in
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basketball. When the initiative was first approved, only football and men's basketball
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revenues from national postseason competition were included. However, I
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applaud our leadership in being proactive by ensuring women's basketball would be effortlessly integrated when
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the NCAA D1 membership approved implementation of units back in January.
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The legal disputes within the conference were brought to resolution at the beginning of March. The ACC board of
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directors was amazing in its leadership, dedication, and patience through a challenging process. The settlement
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provides long-term stability for the league with the potential for all members to benefit from additional
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revenue opportunities. Leading in the distribution of revenue
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based on success and now with an additional revenue distri distribution model that is based on viewership. The
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ACC has been innovative in its approach to conference revenues.
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As part of the modernization of college athletics, these new models allow us to maintain distributions for all ACC
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members that are above most other conferences while also providing flexibility for competition at the
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highest level of revenue. On the playing fields and in the classrooms, our student athletes and
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programs continue to shine. The ACC won six NCA titles this past year and has
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amassed 29 in the last four years. In that span, no conference has won more
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NCA titles in league sponsored sports. Amazingly, there have been 17 occasions
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that an ACC team defeated another ACC team in either the NCAA semifinals or
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the championship over the last four years. Let me just say this is a killer for the
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commissioner. It's the thrill of victory and the agony of defeat all in the same moment.
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In addition to our NCA titles, 12 teams finished their seasons ranked either number one or number two in their
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respective national polls. Earlier this month, we announced Virginia's Gretchen
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Walsh and Duke's Cooper Flag were chosen by a select media panel as the top
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female and male ACC athletes for the 202425 academic year. Walsh earned her
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second consecutive Mary Garber award as the most outstanding female athlete a
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week after winning the Honda Cup as the 2025 collegiate woman athlete of the
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year. flagged the consensus men's national player of the year and the top pick in June's NBA draft earned the
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Anthony J. McKvlin award as the premier male athlete.
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The nominees for these top league awards were remarkable especially when you consider the national award winners and
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Olympic medalist who are on that list. And as many of you noted at the time,
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this was only the sixth time in history that the number one draft picks from the NFL and NBA hailed from the same
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conference. ACC's Cam Ward of Miami and Cooper Flag.
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Beyond athletics, our member institutions remain national leaders in academic metrics, including US News
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World Reports best colleges, NCA graduation success rates, and academic
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progress rates. Let me be clear to the ACC, academics, and graduation continue
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to be cornerstones and a significant point of differentiation. Financially, as most recently reported,
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we were one of only two power conferences to show a revenue increase in 2023 24. We had the highest gross
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revenue ever reported for the league at over $711 million.
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Over the last five years, our overall revenues up 56% has more than tripled in the last 13.
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We delivered an average of $45 million to each school, also a league record.
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And once again, we are in the top three in both overall revenues generated and per school distribution. And we fully
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expect that to continue as we look ahead competitively, academically,
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financially, and beyond. It was another truly remarkable year for the ACC, which
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is a tribute to the exceptional leadership at our institutions led by our CEOs and ads.
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There will always be more to do, but we are well positioned for the future. And I'm confident that our league will
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remain laser focused on bu building upon these successes by further embracing
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innovation, creativity, and competition.
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Nationally, the ACC continues to play a vital and leading role in this transformational moment for college
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sports. There remains strong ongoing collaboration among the power four commissioners as we work together to
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build a better and more sustainable future. There's not a day that I'm not engaged
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in discussions on the college sports commission, federal legislation efforts, the NCAA, or the college football
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playoff. As you know, after years of uncertainty and legal challenges, the formal
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approval of the settlement in June was a major step forward in modernizing
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college athletics. The new system provides a sustainable framework that allows more benefits to student athletes
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while continuing the broad-based programming that produced so many Olympic medalists last summer.
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The ability for schools to provide scholarships to more student athletes does not get the positive attention it
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deserves. From the very beginning and throughout the negotiations,
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anticipated resolution, preparations for approval, and now to full implementation, the ACC has been at the
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forefront of these discussions. The College Sports Commission with Brian
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Cely as its CEO has already begun its tireless work ensuring compliance with
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the new rules around revenue sharing, student athlete NIL deals and roster
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limits. Brian begins his tenure about a month ago and I continue to be impressed
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with him with his credentials speaking for themselves. As we move forward and continue to meet
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this true reset moment, we must remember that everything will not be perfect immediately.
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We know we must get this right, which we take very seriously. We're being thoughtful about every detail and are
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committed to progress through learning, adapting, and strengthening the model to support and protect college sports for
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generations to come. And the obligation to get this right is one the entire industry shares. From me
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and my fellow commissioners to university presidents, athletic directors, and coaches, we have to
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commit to structure, exercise restraint,
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and be intentional about resetting the culture of college athletics. Without question, there's still
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significant work to be done, but we must acknowledge that collectively we are truly in a better place, and we have a
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responsibility to make it work in the future. With that said, we also need Congress to
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act. We will continue to push for federal legislation that will support our efforts to ensure a uniform, stable,
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and legally sound future. Recently, a bipartisan group of Congress members sponsored the SCORE Act designed
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to address issues that threaten college sports, but cannot be solved in the legal settlement in June. Created a
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national standard as opposed to state-by-state differences codifies the student athletes right to earn money for
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their NIL and is paramount importance in ensuring that all institutions are
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operating under the same law. The act also clarifies rulemaking authority around the central tenants
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important for the continued integration of college sports in the higher
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education setting. As an example of the threats the system faces, college sports cannot withstand
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repeated one-off legal challenges to eligibility rules that further separate athletic participation from the
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institutional academic mission. Not only is it philosophically contrary
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to the educational mission of our institutions, but continued extensions of eligibility threaten the
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opportunities for the next generation of college student athletes.
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As you know, there are many issues addressed in this comprehensive bill and I applaud the engagement of our national
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leaders and look forward to our continued progress
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as we further implement the many aspects of the new model. We also remain focused on working with the NCAA and President
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Charlie Baker on critical matters including the future of NCA governance. A discussion that has been ongoing for
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several years dating back to my service on the constitution and transformation committees.
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The NCA board of directors, chaired by Virginia Tech President Tim Sans, and the NCA board of governors, which I have
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the privilege of serving on, are focused on the future structure.
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Following an incredibly successful first year of the expanded college football playoff, we are looking forward to the
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future of this premier event. Earlier this spring, we adjusted the seating and buy policies for the upcoming season,
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which were absolutely in the best interest of college football. The
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decisions were important to guarantee the five highest ranked conference champions a place in the playoff while
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also recognizing performance on the field during the entire regular season
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via straight seating. Conversations regarding the CFP structure beyond the upcoming year are ongoing and I
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sincerely appreciate the collaborative spirit in which we are moving forward.
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We may not always agree and at certain points we have had some strong disagreements,
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but we all recognize the importance of coming together to find a solution that is truly best for all of college
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football. Fairness and access are paramount just as they are in all other
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college sports postseasons. As I begin my remarks about the upcoming
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ACC football season, I want to announce two specific conference policies that will be implemented this fall.
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In the sports of football and men's and women's basketball, our conference has elevated its expectations around court
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and field safety. Members are required to continue developing event security plans which
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will now include a review by a third party independently and to ensure that
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only participants, coaches, officials, and authorized personnel are allowed in the competition area before, during, and
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at the conclusion of any competition. The plan may allow spectators to access
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the competition area following a contest, but only after the visiting team and officials have safely exited
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the area. With the elevated safety expectations,
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it's critical there's critical importance to ensure that adequate time for all members of the visiting team to
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safely leave the field of play. In addition to these elevated expectations, there is a corresponding
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fine structure in place should a school have a breach in this new policy.
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Similarly, in the sports of football, men's and women's basketball, as well as baseball, the ACC will implement a
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player availability reporting policy for each conference game. In football, an institution will submit
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an availability report two days before each league game with updates one day
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before and on game day. All submitted reports will be publicly available on
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the acc.com. This decision is directly connected to
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our ongoing commitment to best protect our student athletes and our multiaceted approach to addressing the effects of
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sports wagering. In this case, it will alleviate pressure from entities or
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individuals who are involved in sports wagering that attempt to obtain inside information about availability from
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players, coaches, and other staff. Safety has always been taken seriously
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by this league, and I applaud our schools for further enhancing and formalizing these important measures.
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We are now 32 days away from week zero and the start of the 2025 ACC football
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season and 37 days from arguably the most compelling week one in college football history and in
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ACC football history that is. Last spring we welcomed three new coaches in
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North Carolina's Bill Bich, Stanford's Frank Reich, and Wake Forest's Jake Dickert. Collectively, this is a veteran
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group of coaches with multiple national championships and Super Bowl rings, and I look forward to watching all 17 lead
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their respective teams this season. Once again, our programs have separated themselves in both scheduling and
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attracting preeminent players. We applaud the national conversation around the importance of strength of
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schedule in elevating and evaluating teams for the college football playoff.
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The ACC continues to embrace this challenge with our teams being intentional and strategic about the
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non-conference scheduling to ensure a competitive and meaningful slate of games to complement
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the challenging league schedule. ACC football has the strongest non-conference schedule in the country
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with 26 non-conference games against power four opponents including Notre Dame which is eight more than any other
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league. Whether looking at the non-conference games against teams ranked in the final 2024 CFP rankings or
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ESPN's 2025 way too early top 25, our league is leading the way. ACC football
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demands excellence every week from every team. Our league is as deep as any and
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we witnessed that last season as for the first time in conference history, four different ACC teams won at least 10
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games plus a league record and nationleading 13 bowl eligible teams.
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That's not an anomaly, it's the new standard, and we expect nothing less this year. And what makes our league
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great is the exceptional talent. The ACC once again stands out as the conference
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of quarterbacks, and the numbers speak for themselves. This year's group is as deep and as and
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talented as we've seen in years with elite signal callers, many here with us
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this week. But it's not just about quarterbacks. This league is loaded with explosive playmakers on offense, game
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changers on defense, and we all know the value of special teams in this league.
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There's not enough time to outline all the meaningful games and rivalries that will take place this season. However,
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there's no question all eyes will once again be on this conference. During week one, we're the only league to compete
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across five days, Thursday through Monday, and we will once again anchor
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Labor Day weekend on Monday night with North Carolina playing host to TCU.
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Our teams will also play nationleading seven power four opponents in week one,
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all of one of which who have won at least nine games this past season.
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Throughout the regular season, ACC football is set to dominate Friday nights. A league record and
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nationleading 12 games are scheduled and will feature 12 of our 17 programs.
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Fans will never miss a minute of action as our ESPN, ACC Network, and CW
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partners will once again cover our teams throughout the entire season. Starting next week, ACCN will embark on
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a three-w weekek road trip previewing all 17 ACC programs with 60-minute shows
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that air in prime time each weekday. As I said before, being one of only
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three conferences with its own network is a differentiator. And in this case, Roadtrip is unique to the ACC as it's
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the only college conference network to have this preseason programming. ACC huddles continues to be another
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quality initiative which since 2001 has traveled to the site of the ACCN prime
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time game. Beginning this season, we are thrilled to announce that ACC Huddle
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will now travel to the marquee ACC game each week, beginning with number six LSU
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at number two Clemson in week one.
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The ACC regular season promises to be a relentless battle as teams will once again compete for the opportunity to
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earn a coveted spot in the ACC football championship game played at Bank of America Stadium right here in Charlotte.
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This game continues to stand as one of college football's premier events, features the top two teams in the ACC,
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and consistently delivers riveting moments and national significance.
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In the first 20 games, 14 different ACC programs have competed for the title,
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more than any other power four conference. A reflection of the depth, balance, and strength that defines ACC
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football. And make no mistake, this event has major national implications.
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In 10 of the last 13 seasons, the game's winner has reached the College Football Playoff or National Championship game.
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Last year and for the second time in league history, both of our participating ter teams earned a spot in
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the CFP, marking the ACC or making the ACC one of only three multi-b leagues.
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Please enjoy the next three days as you talk with out with our with our
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outstanding coaches and student athletes that are ready to accomplish greatness. I truly believe there's not a more
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exciting collection of teams in the country than in the ACC. As I conclude my remarks, I also want to express my
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sincere appreciation to each of you for your coverage, attendance, and support of this lead. Now, I'm happy to take any
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questions. Thank you. We're going to open it up for questions.
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We'll get to as many as we can here before uh our time is up. We're going to
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take our first one from over here on the left center aisle. As a reminder, we
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have microphone holders that will get the mic to you. if you could please give us your name and affiliation
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uh to start things out and then ask your question. Our first one right here from Andrea
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other commissioners yet there have been disagreements as you mentioned some of them becoming public over the last few
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weeks whether it's the playoff or some other things that are going on in collegiate sports. Your approach has
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been different though you've not been public about perhaps some of those disagreements. I'm wondering why you've
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taken this approach and why do you feel that approach is best? Good to see you, Andrea. Appreciate the
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question. I've always tried to be uh part of
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solutions and collaboration. I think some of those things aren't
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really meant for the public. um some of those private conversations.
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I think all of us have a responsibility to our conference and I certainly feel that way each and every day about the
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ACC. But I also know that I have a responsibility to the enterprise um and whether it's
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what's happening now with CFP and maybe there'll be another question later on directly about that or what we do with
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the new governance structure or how we formulated the CSC. Um, I think I'm pretty strong in my convictions and try
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to bring people together and understand that the best way to get a deal done is
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to make sure that maybe you have to relent a little bit, maybe you have to give up a few things, but keep your eye
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on whatever it is you're trying to achieve. And uh, I'm thankful for that. I really am. And and uh, we'll continue
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to lead in that manner. Protect the ACC, but also try to do what's right for college sports.
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As a quick followup, you mentioned the CFP and that's where a lot of the disagreements have been. What is the
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ACC's position about where you want to see an expanded playoff? And there's as a follow-up to that, there's been
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conversation about perhaps staying at 12. How would you feel about that? So, um I think some of my comments have
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been have been public relative to the CFP. I I've always believed in
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rewarding conference champions and if you're in a really good conference, I
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think like we have across the P4 and you're also part of the G6, conference
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championships matter and that's been consistent in my five years that they should be rewarded. Fairness and access
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should also be part of the equation. And so we have a really good playoff right now. It's the five and seven model. I'm
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open to 5'9 and 5'11. I always look to our championships to try to have as much
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access as possible. Within reason, it has to make sense. I think five and seven allows about 9% of those that play
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college football at the FBS level a chance to get into the playoff and it goes up about a percent and a half. So,
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I think you get to nearly 12% if you go to a five and 11 model. Um, I know that
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there's questions about selection and selection committee. I have great faith and confidence in those um, committee
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members. I've served on the men's basketball selection, women's basketball selection committees. I know how
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difficult they that that is. These are honorable, honest individuals with great
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integrity. I do like that we're reviewing the protocol for selection and I think that that will help, but I want
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to stay committed to access and fairness to all of college football, not only the
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ACC, and protect our AQ. So, I look forward to our ongoing conversations, and I understand why other leagues feel
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differently about positioning um of the uh of the future format. So, look
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forward to some of those um ongoing conversations. Take our next question from over here on
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the right hand side middle. Jim David Teal with the Daily Press and Virginia Pilot. You mentioned a fine
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structure for schools where security breaches occur with court and field
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stormings. What is that fine structure? It's uh 50,000,
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100,000 and 200,000. Those will accumulate um through two seasons in
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football and basketball. Maybe there's another sport that has an issue. Uh so
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those will be compiling. They'll go to the uh the postgraduate scholarship fund
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and that's where those dollars will be deposited. But I think paying attention
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there, David, is something that we've done privately. We haven't been as publicly about it. It's time. We're
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seeing more and more of that happen. Um, and I'm seeing it more and more. We're seeing it more and more in basketball.
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Seems to happen a lot to Duke and North Carolina. We have to protect those student athletes in all of our across
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all of our 18 programs. So, that along with a third independent third party that reviews our safety protocols is a I
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think an important step for the league. Going to take our next question from the second row over here on the right.
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Hey Jim Loop, Raleigh News and Observer. Um, in addition to CFP, we've also been
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discussing and tableabling repeatedly NCA tournament expansion, uh, basketball, men's basketball, men's and
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women's basketball. Has your position on that changed at all? Um, is that a bargaining chip as you work through
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these CFP issues with the other conferences? Thank you, Luke. Good to see you this morning. Um, basketball is the crown
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jewel of all of our championships, I think. Uh um CFP certainly is really important and draws an awful lot. Uh
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ends up being a financial engine for all of us, but I think the country really
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enjoys March like nothing else. So we have a responsibility and obligation to
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protect it. It's in a really good spot right now at 68. We've had the iterations from 48 64 to 68. Um, I like
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what we're doing, Luke, as it relates to looking at it, reviewing it, uh, talking
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to coaches, talking to student athletes. Um, logistically, it has to make sense.
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The compression of when tournaments finish and then when you have the masters, which obviously with a partner
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like CBS, you're not going to change that, you only allows you a certain amount of time to get these games in. So
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you can't hastily expand the tournament if you haven't looked at that and player safety and number of games and what it
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would mean for travel and how you would work those additional 48. But as I said earlier, I always like additional access
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for teams and for schools when it's the right time and when it's the right tournament and format. So we'll look at
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it. Overall, I would say uh as I've talked with our coaches and listened to some of the feedback, our men's coaches
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are more in favor of expansion. Our women's coaches are more against
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expansion. So, it's almost like a split in the conference as it relates to that. So we
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we'll we'll continue to work with Charlie Baker who I I would say this. We have a every other week with the power
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for commissioners call and Charlie joins us for a portion of that 90-minute call
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and he always gives us an update on that and um he continues to do that. We have an upcoming call next week. Um I think
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it'd be difficult to push it through this year if it if it if it you know if it expands. Who knows? There's still
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time to do that. But I want to do it in a really thoughtful, measured way. Take our next question from the second
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aisle on our left. Hey Jim, David Hill with ESPN. Um, I know you talked about the the toughest
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non-conference uh schedule of any conference. Uh, but Big 10 has made a big thing about their nineame conference
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play. The SEC is discussing that. Do you feel solid that the ACC should stay at eight? Do you feel like it would need to
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go to nine if the SEC goes to nine? and and how does that if they go to nine, how does that affect the ability to
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schedule big time games? Good morning, Dave. Good to see you as always. Uh we have discussed nine. We've
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discussed nine several times in my five years as commissioner. Uh the group has
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always felt that at the end of the day, those non-conference games have really been good for the league and we have
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really scheduled well. So, it it isn't as if um our league has just kind of
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looked aside about strength of schedule. They they have um if you go to nine, if
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the SEC ends up going to nine and and uh maybe we we end up going to nine, I
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think there's a few challenges. Those rivalry games that we really enjoy, I think that the fans really enjoy, I
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think some of those go away. uh and it now focuses more on everybody's
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conference schedule than it is a mix of conference schedule and non-conference.
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Also, I think it's a challenge for us with an odd number of schools at 17 and and how you exactly work that that out.
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So, that that in itself uh there's some difficulty there. And I continue to talk
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to Greg and I talk to Tony and Brett all the time. I mean, we have frequent conversations. So, I mean, Nolan's kind
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of moving in a vacuum on this. We're we're exchanging, you know, thoughts there. And, uh, we'll see. At the end of
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the day, uh, I I like where our league is. I like where where we where we at,
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where we're at in eight games because we're playing the type of caliber that I described, 26 really good non-conference
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uh, games. But, um, we'll adjust if if we have to. And, uh, I think all of this remains a work in progress.
33:18
stay that same place right over there. Um Jim, you you David kind of stole my
33:24
question, so he asked it first, so I'm gonna try to spin it a different way. Yeah. Uh with that non-conference
33:30
schedule that you have, what are your thoughts on how you balance in strength of schedule? There's a lot of talk about
33:36
strength of schedule metrics. How do you balance that in with with the talk of,
33:41
you know, if you go to nine games, would these games be discouraged that you're playing in week one?
33:47
So, I give Rich Clark and the CFP a lot of credit. We've we've pushed them to it's it's also been the commissioner's
33:55
wishes to really look at strength of schedule and what that metric and how
34:01
that metric is used in the evaluation and ultimate selection of the CFP. We
34:06
started this this is year 12 so 11 years ago and it was a smaller format and over
34:16
the course of the last year or so going to 12 has now I think put a greater
34:21
emphasis because there's there's more teams that you're looking at and the competitive balance and and uh resumes
34:30
start to get blurred a little bit. So, Sports Source Analytics is helping us look at that in a different way and we
34:36
had a a really good kind of presentation by them in June when we were in Asheville as commissioners and and then
34:43
we had our CFP meeting. So, we have to look at that. I think teams should be rewarded for playing good schedules and
34:50
if you're in a really good conference like I feel like we are and others are, you should get rewarded for, you know,
34:56
playing good teams within that conference. But you just don't know. every year is just a little bit different about how good teams are. And
35:03
with the transfer portal and the movement of student athletes from one school to the next, it's more and more
35:09
difficult to really predict how teams are going to be until they start to play. So, it's a, you know, it's a it's
35:16
a important element that there's clarity about strength of schedule and strength
35:22
of record in the selection process. So, we'll see kind of where that end ends up
35:27
going. Um, but now is the time to kind of get that right. And that may that may push us one way or the other with a new,
35:34
you know, with a change in format or, you know, to to uh maybe 11 um or seven
35:43
um, you know, or or nine. So, it just it we'll see what happens moving forward.
35:50
I'm going to switch over here to the right hand side, third row. Ken Gibbs, Locked on Podcast Network.
35:55
Um, in terms of the NIL conversation, it is moving in a direction with the
36:02
executive orders and all that coming down that there seems to be a very clear delineation on whether or not the
36:08
players are classified as student athletes or employees. Are you for or
36:14
against either one of those uh labels? And where do you fall in that conversation? Yeah, thank you. Nice to see you this
36:19
morning, Kevin. Appreciate the question. One one of the the major facets um that
36:26
we're looking at in the score act is this reaffirmation that these are student athletes, that these aren't
36:32
employees. Um along with the national standard, some legal protection from
36:39
from the onslaught of of uh lawsuits. Um
36:44
I had a chance yesterday, as I described, to talk to our student athletes. They understand it. They they
36:49
understand. I haven't had one student athlete come up to me to say that they want to be an employee. I think they
36:55
appreciate uh being in college, going to school, working critically hard to earn a
37:01
valuable degree, and playing a sport at the highest level. It's wonderful that we can now pay our student athletes. I
37:08
think it's fantastic how that distribution comes out and who gets those dollars, etern
37:15
by schools. But um that's the next step in the I think the modernization of
37:21
college sports is to get that reaffirmation that these indeed are student athletes. Thank you for your
37:28
question. We're going to go all the way on the lefth hand side. Thanks Brian Murphy with uh
37:33
commissioner. Can you assess the rollout of the college sports commission how it's launched and then obviously the
37:39
guidance specifically about NIL? Does the ACC support that current guidance and do you expect legal challenges if
37:45
that guidance stays in place? CSC Brian? Yeah. Listen,
37:54
I think Brian City's done an amazing job in three weeks. I really do. Uh this
37:59
thing has happened fast. He's absolutely the right person based on his background at the Department of Justice and Major
38:05
League Baseball. But I think there's some really important elements. It's about communication, implementation,
38:12
and compliance. And that's that's part of what Brian is trying to do overall.
38:18
He's watching the enterprise and he's watching what the settlement agreement has allowed revshare
38:25
for the first time and staying within the 20.5 million legitimate NIL
38:33
agreements legitimate not pay for play but legitimate where the student athlete is performing something in return for
38:41
for the dollars and roster limits which I spoke about a little bit earlier uh in
38:47
my remarks. We've taken off some of these restrictions on scholarship limits and
38:54
and some of that. So, he's done a really good job and um you know, I go I go back
39:01
to why did we want to set this up? It was about setting up standard a
39:08
standardized set of rules. It was about transparency which we haven't had in the
39:14
NIL era and and uh the ability when we when we began have began having the
39:20
ability to pay student athletes and enforcement and that's that's where we're headed as it relates to the case.
39:27
Listen, our legal council will continue to work with the class council that's representing the student athletes and
39:34
we'll we'll either get to an agreement or or we won't about the interpretation that's been under question. And if we
39:40
can't get to a uh a good place coming together, then we'll we'll put it in
39:45
front of a judge. But we can't. When I said earlier with the emphasis on
39:51
restraint, I meant it. We can't help ourselves sometimes.
39:57
People know what the rules are relative to 20.5. They know what legitimate NIL is. You can play in that
40:05
gray area if you want, but all that does is undermine a new structure.
40:11
Uh, so I really like where we're going. It's not going to be perfect. It shouldn't be expected to be perfect, but
40:18
um I wanted I was looking down because I want to I want to give you these notes. I think it's helpful because I talked to Brian within the last 24 hours just so
40:26
you know a little bit about like NIL go who's registered. Let me give you these numbers. student athletes 15,519
40:35
reps and agents 1970 average daily login about 600 student
40:42
athletes a day are getting on NILG go um
40:47
approved deals I don't have that number anyway so it's moving and every time we
40:52
talk to Brian talking about we meaning the four power four commissioners he's got new updates and the thing continues
40:59
continues to get stable and get some traction. So, appreciate the work he's doing. I really like the structure. We
41:06
fought hard for the things I just mentioned and uh we'd be well served to just kind of relax and let this thing
41:13
settle in. Next question over here on our right hand side, third row. Hi, Commissioner. My name is Michael uh
41:19
from Plant the Spear right here. Um you speaking of revenue, uh a lot of
41:24
conversation have been around brand exposure, especially with the you know ACC football. um in in conjunction with
41:31
its primary media partner, the uh ESPN. Um what is your plan to help increase
41:37
brand brand exposure for the ACC football programs? Uh especially in light of the fact that it seems like
41:44
your primary media partner has uh placed the ACC as secondary to conferences like
41:50
the SEC. Thanks, Michael. Appreciate the question. So, uh, I really like what
41:56
we've done. The accomplished greatness has been a about an 18-month project that has had incredible benefits for us.
42:04
The brand of the ACC continued can can continue to be elevated. It really, it really can be. May maybe you're
42:11
interested in the new chief marketing and branding officer that's open. So, if you are, give me your materials because
42:17
we're going to hire somebody that will report to me. Um, and it's something that we've gone through a reorganizational kind of move here in
42:25
the last 3 months with our uh office and we're going to we are going to hire somebody from the outside to do that and
42:32
I'm excited about that because that is an area that we have to just improve on. But when I look at our partner,
42:40
they've been really good to us and you may feel that way and sometimes I may feel that way. Um, but they all they
42:47
always react to me and to us when we feel like maybe we're not getting the
42:53
same kind of treatment. And one of the things we have to do is we we we got to perform better, too. We can't we can't
42:59
go two and 11 in in in in uh postseason bowl games last year. We had 13, which
43:05
was incredible, and then we played poorly. So, we have to do our part. We'll continue to work with our partners
43:11
at ESPN, but it is a priority as we move forward. Thanks for the question.
43:19
Hey, Jim. David Glenn from the North Carolina Sports Network. Uh, the the ACC's legal settlement with Clemson and
43:25
Florida State seemed to give those schools a lot of what they were asking for. As you know, when the Big 12 went
43:31
to unequal revenue sharing, four schools that kept asking for more were happy for
43:37
a little while, but then they all eventually left for the Big 10 or the SEC. My question to you is what was your
43:44
sense of how the ACC board or the ACC presidents balanced the desire to end
43:50
all those dueling lawsuits with what has been a very extreme pivot away from 70
43:56
years plus of pretty equal revenue sharing in the ACC. Thanks David. Appreciate that question.
44:02
It was good to run into you earlier too. Um listen, I stand by what I said about
44:08
our board. Our board was amazing. Uh, and it goes back to maybe Andrea's first question about trying to collaborate and
44:15
maybe you don't get exactly what you want anybody, but you get to a place that's for the greater good. And that's
44:21
where I felt, David, it was different because I know what the Florida State and Clemson people were saying and they
44:26
said it to the entire group about their desire to be in the ACC and all the rest of that. And I believe them. I really
44:33
do. and and and I have a responsibility to make sure that our ACC schools want
44:41
to be in this league, not just have to be in this league. And I think that's
44:46
important. And again, just replaying five years
44:51
ago, one of the things I said was I wanted to make sure that I listened. If you were going to serve the membership,
44:57
you had to listen to the membership. And I think that's what we did. And in this particular case, we did that. And we did
45:03
it. I thought in a very fair and equitable manner. If you want to earn more money, then you're you're going to
45:10
need to invest. And we have two prongs to this thing. You have the the the
45:16
overall success initiatives where go perform in football and men's and women's basketball and you will get a
45:22
bigger share of the of the revenue from the from the conference than others.
45:30
And then viewership ends up being go put a good team together, invest,
45:37
play good competition, play good non-conference games, draw attention like last year's game with with Georgia
45:43
Tech and and Florida State uh did and others that you know I I listed the the
45:48
Clemson LSU game. Um and and go fight for those dollars from a viewership
45:54
standpoint. And everybody's going to get a certain level of viewership dollars
46:00
which um which again I think there's this there'll be a little bit of te te teeter tottering based on your
46:05
performance based on your team and that's healthy. I I really do. It may not fit all leagues or other leagues but
46:13
I know that that was part of what was right and a reconciliation for the league. And since we've since we've had
46:21
that take place in March, I've not felt stronger about this league than I have
46:27
in the last five months. And I mean that. I'm not just saying that. It's not Hyper Bowl and all the rest of that stuff. I really believe that. When you
46:33
think about settling those lawsuits and being committed to one another, you talk talk about viewership and success on how
46:41
to distribute dollars. You you talk about coming back off of the most revenue we've ever distributed.
46:48
29 na 29 national championships sport of football getting better and we
46:54
want to take another step this year. The league is situated nicely right now.
47:01
Difficult, bumpy, challenging, but let's not let a lazy narrative
47:09
from a standpoint of not people not moving on and understanding kind of where we're going. I I I feel like the
47:15
the league has earned that. Nobody gave that to us. We were steady. You didn't see us at all move this way or that way.
47:22
People said a lot of things about the league, but at the end of the day, that's where we're at. And exercised our
47:29
partnership with with ESPN, which everybody said was not going to happen through uh 3536, what gives us a
47:35
platform of the ACC for the next decade. Thanks for your question. Couple more. We got one over here.
47:41
Oh, sorry. Commissioner, good morning. Eric Spanberg with the Business Journal. I'm curious. Uh you're talking a lot
47:46
obviously about revenue and revenue sharing. Here in North Carolina, there
47:51
is legislation, suggested legislation that would give uh I think roughly
47:58
between 12 and $20 million a year to NC State and UNCC Chapel Hill if it plays out. And I'm curious, are you concerned
48:05
or emboldened by that? Uh because obviously different states have different policies on gaming and how the
48:11
money is spent. Good to see you, Eric.
48:16
Listen, investment in higher education and in athletics. I'm for just am. Every
48:24
state has to do what they believe is right. But I commend the state of North Carolina for looking at it in that way
48:31
and trying to support those institutions. As I was talking to the student athletes
48:37
yesterday, you know, one of the things that I hope they got from me is that
48:46
college sports is really important. It allows access and affordability to a
48:53
group of young men and women that may not have a chance to access a school or
48:59
have it a affordable based on their means from from their home. So, I I hope
49:06
more states will support their institutions because it's an investment in those
49:13
30 or so student athletes. And no one can tell me that that's not a great investment and especially in this
49:19
league, the kind of schools we have and the kind of student athletes we have. Thank you.
49:24
Go over here to our left third row. Yeah. Mitch North from SP Nation.
49:30
Um, I was just going to ask about the the availability and injury reporting policy that that's new that's coming.
49:36
Um, you know, I think sometimes coaches can be a little reserved or secretive about reporting availabilities and
49:43
injuries. So, just kind of wondering like how receptive were the coaches in those four sports to this idea and is
49:50
there a fine structure um in place if those reports aren't submitted on time
49:56
or if they're untruthful? Coaches are hard to change, right? But
50:02
when we told them that we were doing it, no one said anything on the call. So, I don't know what that meant
50:08
other than they were accepting it. Uh, it's the right thing. It's the right thing. I understand. And every coach has
50:15
to do what they have to do in order to get their team ready. And there's always gamesmanship. Always. That's just that's
50:22
been around for a hundred years and it's going to continue. Um, but it's the right thing. There's stresses on our
50:29
student athletes from individuals that are trying to garner information. And
50:35
sometimes it's pretty innocent because they just want to know. They're a big fan, but other times it really does
50:41
trickle and lead yourself to the the gambling and sports wagering kind of
50:47
path. Um, we haven't come up with a fine policy yet. We're still kind of
50:52
discussing that. But we'd also like to think that people are going to do what they're asked to
50:58
do. And we we hope that that would it wouldn't come down to that. Uh schools will have to identify who that person is
51:05
going to be. For football, it'll be two days before, a day before, and then two hours before kick. Uh for the
51:13
basketballs and for baseball, it'll be one day before and then two hours before tip off our first pitch. And uh it's the
51:20
right thing. It's the again the modernization of our conference, the modernization of college sports, and the expectations we should have to protect
51:27
our student athletes. Over here on the left in the front row, Dan Toro, wake of calldt.com. Jim, how
51:35
are you? Hi Dan, good morning. Morning. Just to look at the affordability of this model that we have
51:41
in collegiate athletics now. Just what you can say to that. I mean, each school has different resources within the ACC. So the affordability of this model as we
51:49
step forward and you said, you know, to exercise restraint just what you see in the world of the transfer portal and if
51:54
there should be some more parameters around that. Well, I I've been heartened by the level
52:02
of commitment I've seen in our league about people trying to get to the 20.5 uh the sustainability level. I I think
52:10
it's got a chance to absolutely work. I really do. And I I think having the cap
52:16
and that cap will move up as we go through and more revenues generated at the P4 level and and in college sports
52:23
so it won't stay stagnant at just one level. Uh and I think it it's again an
52:28
investment in our young people. Those decisions about how much and who
52:34
gets it, those end up being campus decisions. I hope this has a positive effect on the transfer portal relative
52:42
to a little more stability there. The transfer portal was never ever put together so that a student athlete could
52:49
go to four schools in four years. That that that never was the intent, but it got away from us because of legislation
52:55
and because of legal disputes and the rest of it. Um, and so I hope that that
53:02
ends up um these agreements, these NIL agreements and agreements with the schools, etc. I hope that that will
53:09
settle some of that movement away. Student athletes deserve the right to go to the schools that they want for sure.
53:15
Um, it shouldn't interfere though with graduation and progress towards degree and all the things we don't even talk
53:21
about anymore. We just don't. We've left all of that to the side. So, um, again,
53:27
I'm I am optimistic about where this thing is going. I like what we what we ended up doing with the CSC and, uh, I
53:33
think the residual that we'll see with transfer portal and movement, I think we'll also settle down to a certain
53:39
extent. Tried to get to as many as we could. We're going to take our last question here. Commissioner,
53:44
hey Jen, Josh Graham, WSJS. Uh going back to basketball, you referenced the
53:50
uh court storming, some recent court stormings leading to the safety policy. Was there a specific instance that led
53:57
to those conversations beginning? And also this summer going back from 20 league games to 18 league games per
54:04
team. How difficult was it to balance to have flexibility with scheduling versus
54:10
trying to protect home and home rivalries? Good to see you, Josh. Uh, I would I
54:17
would uh start two-part question. I would start first with you're not only
54:23
noticing your own league, but you're noticing other leagues. And you're not only noticing men's basketball, I was noticing women's basketball. I remember
54:30
an incident with Caitlyn Clark at Ohio State, right? at Philippowski at Wake
54:35
Forest and and I'm not, you know, picking on Wake Forest, but you're asking me about moments where student
54:43
athletes really are getting pushed and bumped and tripped and the rest. And
54:49
then this past year when I saw it early on in the year, uh, especially couple of
54:55
the league games, but then noticing across the country some of the activity that were going on. So, so that that
55:00
really spurred this idea of safety. The um the 20 to 18 I I I can I just be
55:09
honest with you, I am restless with ACC men's basketball and I'm responsible for
55:15
it. I feel responsibility for it, but it's not good enough where it is right now. And I know our coaches feel the
55:21
same way. And I felt like going to 18 games allowed us a chance to play two
55:28
more competitive non-conference games uh and give us a chance to have a
55:34
greater winning percentage. And some of the metrics that they use to select teams when you when you play 20
55:41
conference games, games 19 and 20, you're going to have a 500 record across your league no matter what. Uh so I feel
55:47
strongly that that's the right thing for us to do. It always has a few unintended
55:54
consequences and some of the rivalries and and you just mentioned that that ends up being part of, you know, maybe
56:01
what you don't like about it, but it was time for us to do that. We can always go back to 20 if we need to. We're not
56:07
we're not going to for a few years for sure because we got to let this thing settle in, see how scheduling goes, see how our teams perform and all the rest
56:14
of it. But we need to get back to our rightful place in men's hoops. and and that uh decision was absolutely intended
56:22
to try to help our schools do that. Thank you, Commissioner. Thank you. Appreciate you. Make sure you
56:28
let us know if there's anything that you need here over the course of the uh la next three days and just really
56:33
appreciate you being here in the middle of the summer. Thanks.
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